>>35816374>plenty of us stay andro or chapstick.That's butch
>for many there are family or social bonds keeping them in a life-long state of repressionIn the west? No there isn't. In the west cis women are discouraged from acting feminine. The gun toting cowgirl, the professional powerfemme, etc etc etc.
Cis men find femininity despicable, trans men agree. There are no social constraints on a woman wearing a pant suit with short back and sides. Picrel is supposedly a cis lesbian, not only has she reduced her femininity to the minimum possible levels, but she's a trail blazer in terms of her career choice both as a stand up commedian, and a variety show host. Very few women were involved in those careers when she started.
She matches Group 2 perfectly, and yet, openly identifies as a cis lesbian. Not only is this permissible, it's lauded and rewarded.
This is what an FTM repper looks like in middle age. Because the social pressure on men to remain masucline, ALSO pressure women to BE masculine.